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Anyone out there NOT want reviews?
Brook
02/25/07 02:30
Brook
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Discretion on both ends?

I'm not the "kiss n tell" type, so to put it. If it were up to me, I'd have no reviews at all. Then again with no reviews, none of the "big wigs" would give the time of day. What are the best places to have reviews to where it'll only take a few to gain trust? Just kind of wondering how guys can look for discretion from the lady but at the same time want reviews. I look for discretion just as much as the guys do. Is that reasonable?
 
Site Admin
02/25/07 04:36
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We've also been thinking about these issues.
On the one hand, clients need the information about escorts. And anyway this information is and will be shared, on this site or some another. There are too many scams, frauds and just bad or unprofessional providers out there. So there must be some way to check the background other than escort's own claims and ads. So the guys do really need this kind of service. And we can't leave it up to escorts to decide to place the interviews about he/him or not cause in this case con artists would get protection...
On the other hand, escorts need discretion. I can understand that it's a rather delicate issue when your personal life can be disclosed to others... It's really difficult question, and I suppose we should discuss a more broad issue of how to keep your personal life separated from the professional. I believe, that one of the possibilities is to create a virtual identity that is not associated with your real one. Whatever is written about you on the forums or reviews is not touching you directly then, it's all about your virtual identity, that represents your professional life. It can only be associated with your offline personality by those people who know that those two identities are connected, i.e. your clients...


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Jade4u
03/02/07 01:20
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quote Site Admin :
We've also been thinking about these issues.
On the one hand, clients need the information about escorts. And anyway this information is and will be shared, on this site or some another. There are too many scams, frauds and just bad or unprofessional providers out there. So there must be some way to check the background other than escort's own claims and ads. So the guys do really need this kind of service. And we can't leave it up to escorts to decide to place the interviews about he/him or not cause in this case con artists would get protection...
On the other hand, escorts need discretion. I can understand that it's a rather delicate issue when your personal life can be disclosed to others... It's really difficult question, and I suppose we should discuss a more broad issue of how to keep your personal life separated from the professional. I believe, that one of the possibilities is to create a virtual identity that is not associated with your real one. Whatever is written about you on the forums or reviews is not touching you directly then, it's all about your virtual identity, that represents your professional life. It can only be associated with your offline personality by those people who know that those two identities are connected, i.e. your clients...


I've never had a problem with getting reviews as long as men do not go too greatly into details ie... she took a whole load in her face or she did this or that etc... If a man has had a great time I think that is enough information, ok a few minor details to let men understand a bit of what the session is like is ok. But when men go over board with details then other men sometimes develop thier own opinions about an sp. Sometimes a sp just tries to meet the desires of a particular client and then they get the wrong idea thinking that is how an sp is with all sessions. ie... she is too rough or she is too gentle etc... Where as an sp like myself I try to get a feeling as to what a man expects in a session and I will then decide to meet him or not dependant on if I think I can meet his expectations. But other than that I am all for reviews as it is reviews that gets the word out about if a man was happy or not.
 
Site Admin
03/02/07 02:32
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quote Jade4u :

I've never had a problem with getting reviews as long as men do not go too greatly into details ie... she took a whole load in her face or she did this or that etc... If a man has had a great time I think that is enough information, ok a few minor details to let men understand a bit of what the session is like is ok. But when men go over board with details then other men sometimes develop thier own opinions about an sp. Sometimes a sp just tries to meet the desires of a particular client and then they get the wrong idea thinking that is how an sp is with all sessions. ie... she is too rough or she is too gentle etc... Where as an sp like myself I try to get a feeling as to what a man expects in a session and I will then decide to meet him or not dependant on if I think I can meet his expectations. But other than that I am all for reviews as it is reviews that gets the word out about if a man was happy or not.


Jade4u, thanks for your post. I got an idea from it. Perhaps, we should create two separate fields in review, like it's realized on TER. General session description and juicy details. The second will only be available to established members (those who have high reputation and activity). This will guarantee that this content will not be spidered by search engines or available to the general publicand even most of the site users. Only relatively mature hobbyists will be able to see it. And we can write a prefrase to this seciton. Something like:

"These details reflect action that happened between this provider and this particular client. They may reflect and be affected by the wishes, fantasies, preferences and demands of the client to much greater extent than those of the provider. Please remember that every session is unique, and what a provider do with a paticular client can not be considered as a rule."

What do you think?


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Miranda Cruz
03/06/07 20:17
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Jade4u, thanks for your post. I got an idea from it. Perhaps, we should create two separate fields in review, like it's realized on TER. General session description and juicy details. The second will only be available to established members (those who have high reputation and activity). This will guarantee that this content will not be spidered by search engines or available to the general publicand even most of the site users. Only relatively mature hobbyists will be able to see it. And we can write a prefrase to this seciton. Something like:

"These details reflect action that happened between this provider and this particular client. They may reflect and be affected by the wishes, fantasies, preferences and demands of the client to much greater extent than those of the provider. Please remember that every session is unique, and what a provider do with a paticular client can not be considered as a rule."

What do you think?


I don't mind reviews, but in the past I have had people give bad reviews of my service because they didn't like the fact that my prices were not in their range. You can't review my services if you don't try them first so how can you say something negative about someone you haven't even met?
 
Carolina Aurora
03/13/07 15:57
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For me reviews are very important. I like to hear from my clients that they really enjoyed our time which we spent together. For somebody can be quite difficult talk face to face about some "positive/negative feelings" during the meeting . I always asking the gentlemans for the review because it´s feedback for me same like for my client.

How I can do my best If I don´t know what I doing wrong ? Every nice meeting and every review makes me happier, stronger, more experience because I need to hear that they had a good time with me.
Of course, somebody can also writte bad review but It was never happend to me ... or happend and I don´t know about it ... good luck for me :o)


Well, discretion is very important but I guess that clients don´t have any personal informations like true name, true adress, number of ID card or Passport etc. I don´t see nothing undiscretion in review. I also guess that the clients are not " stupid small boys" and they know which kind of words/sentences is better to use in review and which not.

Maybe the easiest resolution may be if the escort ask the gentleman/client if he can be so nice and don´t post or post review which will be very descreet.


" Iam apologise for my bad english "
 
Jade4u
03/17/07 12:20
Jade4u
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quote Site Admin :
quote Jade4u :

I've never had a problem with getting reviews as long as men do not go too greatly into details ie... she took a whole load in her face or she did this or that etc... If a man has had a great time I think that is enough information, ok a few minor details to let men understand a bit of what the session is like is ok. But when men go over board with details then other men sometimes develop thier own opinions about an sp. Sometimes a sp just tries to meet the desires of a particular client and then they get the wrong idea thinking that is how an sp is with all sessions. ie... she is too rough or she is too gentle etc... Where as an sp like myself I try to get a feeling as to what a man expects in a session and I will then decide to meet him or not dependant on if I think I can meet his expectations. But other than that I am all for reviews as it is reviews that gets the word out about if a man was happy or not.


Jade4u, thanks for your post. I got an idea from it. Perhaps, we should create two separate fields in review, like it's realized on TER. General session description and juicy details. The second will only be available to established members (those who have high reputation and activity). This will guarantee that this content will not be spidered by search engines or available to the general publicand even most of the site users. Only relatively mature hobbyists will be able to see it. And we can write a prefrase to this seciton. Something like:

"These details reflect action that happened between this provider and this particular client. They may reflect and be affected by the wishes, fantasies, preferences and demands of the client to much greater extent than those of the provider. Please remember that every session is unique, and what a provider do with a paticular client can not be considered as a rule."

What do you think?


It sounds good to me. :)
 
dominixe
04/22/07 17:10
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Personally, I am not in favour of having reviews because they end up being abused (by providers as well as clients) to such an extent that they become meaningless. For feedback, I much prefer clients send me a thank-you note instead.

Even on the site today, there are glowing 5 star reviews provided by persons whose registration date is the same as their last update which is the same as their last login where the Number of Logins = 0, Emails received = 0 and Emails sent = 0. And there are also very negative reviews authored by persons with the same type of profile.

These are clearly false reviews which are planted to either inflate or to damage the profile and reputation of a service provider. These reviews should be expunged from the system. Highly negative personal comments in reviews are intended to be hurtful - and how is any reader able to judge the truth of such comments? The problem with reviews is how do you verify the truthfulness of the reviewer?

I agree with Brooke in expecting discretion from my clients. What happens between a provider and a client is private and confidential. Disclosure of intimate details is not good for either party --- and often has legal implications.

However, I fully support the reporting of scams and fraud.

I think that the use of high reputation and site activity is a good step forward on this site. It helps provide a counter to the actions of a few bad apples who will always be present.

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Jade4u
04/22/07 19:36
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I have seen this as well, but have also seen how Admin has handled one situation where an sp reported to him several fake reviews from the same user and Admin did pull the reviews mentioned. So I believe he handles this fairly.

I also know that some girls will complain if a bad review comes up and that some men could be long term members and do not write reviews but feel the need to warn others if they have bad encounters. I think men should also have the right to know of such occasions and it should not matter if it is his first review. But, I do believe that join dates should be looked at in such cases.

If there was no reviews girls would not know how to improve on thier services and men would not be warned of any bad experiences. In some cases girls with bad reviews I have seen them handle it very nicely and say to the men thanks for letting me know and I will work on that etc...

If both sp's and reviewers handle the situations maturely and word things respectfully I think it can be beneficial to all. I have also seen men write bad reviews of sp's and do follow up appointments and do follow up reviews if things are handled well.

If you suspect a man of a fake review just ask him ok on what night at what time and what do I have in my home etc... something that is not in your photos have him mention. Now if he can mention things that are obviously there then he has been there and most likely was not satisfied.

I also think the fake reviews are pretty obvious and that real hobbyists can recognize them.
 
Viewer
04/26/07 10:28
Viewer
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A lot of good points have been made here, on both sides of the issue. As Admin has said, it is a complicated question with no simple answer. I hope the reputation system here will help both providers and hobbyists begin to separate the honest reviews from the shills/negative shills.

Unfortunately, Carolina, it is not always true that 'the clients are not " stupid small boys."' From my experiences on other boards, hobbyists run the full range of any other human beings, from mature gentlemen who genuinely love women, to the dull and ignorant, to the misguided, to the truly malicious woman-haters.
 
Delicious
04/26/07 13:03
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I plainly state on my website that there might not be many reviews on me, because I truly feel what happens between my 'friend' and myself is our own personal business...and I also state that I do not tell anyone that I prefer he not review our time together...
I let that be his decision...but when I come across reviews that are blantenly false, It really pisses me off.....
I know most hobbyist can discern between what is a truly genuine review and what is a 'SHOT' at an independent provider.......
I searched the web at one time to see if I could find any reviews, and what I found I posted to my website, the good and the bad...
All reviews are NOT going to be good...simple because (as hard as we try) we cannot please everyone..but when one is totally waaaay out of leftfield, I will bring it to the attention of whatever site/forum/board I found it on....
As was the case here....and once I brought it to ADMIN'S attention he truly took care of it with the quickness...and I'm grateful for that...I have no idea how long it had been here, nor how many people saw it.....and there is nothing I can do about that...because of the aforementioned discerning hobbyist smartness.......It has not slowed my 'friend' base in any way....but by the same token, I wanted it gone, and it is gone...So don't fret if you have no reviews....if you want them, just ask one or all of your previous 'friends' and just let them know to keep the really personal details out of it...let readers read between the lines...
Bottom line is I guess, is that reviews can be a double edged sword...if you understand what I mean by this...
Watch your back ladies, and always check those references...

HAVE A GREAT DAY
DELICIOUS
 
Bianca88
04/14/08 03:42
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I think reviews should be as discreet as possible. I am a very private person (as you can see from my pic). I am nervous as it is and do not need actual details about dates being splattered on the internet, No bueno.
 
For Your Pleasure
04/30/08 21:45
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I have been escorting now for a year and a half and only have one review, mainly because the men I see want discretion as much as I do. I'm a single mother and I also have a regular day job that cannot be compromised. I have created a virtual identity and only give my name to men after I meet them and make sure they understand how I have to protect my identity. I have never had a problem getting clients and I have several regulars. I always take the time to get to know them a little before we meet and that way they know that I'm for real and what they can expect when they meet me.

I have only ever had one person ask me about a review and when I explained that I prefered my privacy and so did my clients he understood that and he still made an appointment with me. He wasn't disappointed and he didn't give me a review either.


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Letusdoit
05/03/08 00:35
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quote For Your Pleasure :
I have only ever had one person ask me about a review and when I explained that I prefered my privacy and so did my clients he understood that and he still made an appointment with me. He wasn't disappointed and he didn't give me a review either.



He's a very attentive man. How do you think, is orientation to regular clients better than any other variant?
 
Arina 18 Cute
06/20/08 04:13
Arina 18 Cute
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I think reviews are great! It prove to my guest that my service is very good and that they can trust my ad.
 


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